Predestination In Question

[Aggressor Prime]

What I am about to say may be all lies. You do not have to believe any of it. It is only a thoght. In other words, I do not like religious wars.

Ok, let me start off by saying that learning one's own fate may be possible. This is how. Heaven is not bound by space nor time. Once we reach heaven, we will be everywhere and in every time, even the time of our own existence today. Thus, we will be saints in our own time, that is if we will be saved. So, if we can communicate with our sainthood and reveive a response through a miracle, we will know we are saved. If we do not, either our saintly self doesn't find a purpose in what we are asking or we are doomed. We, of course, must try to make ourselves better if we do not receive a response so that we will not be doomed. This form of predestination can only find if we are saved. It is impossible to find if we are doomed.

Again, these thoughts may be all lies. I am not an expert on philosophy.

[Tebow2000]

Again, these thoughts may be all lies. I am not an expert on philosophy.

So why are you posting this..

[Aggressor Prime]

Because I like to propose theories.

[Tebow2000]

... I would have never guessed

[MovingStill]

From a literal stand point looking at the bible it is easy to say that you should not idolize, pray, worship, or devout yourself in any way, shape or form to a saint or any other figure besides the Holy Trinity. With that said, if you were to conceive a miracle from 'yourself' per say, how would you know it was you and not... say, you're best friend or a family member attempting to alter your path in life so that you would become a better christian/muslim/hindu/buddhist/etc. to prepare yourself for the next life. Furthermore, it can be taken that this divine intervention is not likely to happen to everyone, unless you count the small things in life, such as the way a tree grows, rainbows, how the cosmos stay aligned, in orbit, etc. and all that frilly stuff, then I suppose you have a point on a level, but I find that you have probably a better chance of getting your palm read. Sorry, not trying to blow you out of the water, just showing the 'other side' of things.

[Aggressor Prime]

That is why I make theories.
Theories are meant to teach something, either for it or against it.

[Smartweb]

Have you ever seen back to the future? They could transcent time, but the changes they made only took place after they made the changes. In other words, if that's correct, then your "saint" self would exist until you became a saint. The whole load of what you said though is BS.

[Aggressor Prime]

Back to the Future is a movie, not reality.
You need to stop basing what you believe in on fiction and think logically.
The world exists in multiple dimensions.
Our future dimension communicates to us.

[Suvorov]

Lol Smartweb bases the relation between quantum physics and religion on Back To The Future.

I don't think any religious belief is 'BS', and I don't think the Bible (Or any other religious document) should be read literally. It's full of great stories, with deeper meanings intertwined, but to take them literally (in my opinion) is a form of idol worship unto itself. The idea that a person can only be religious to one group is present in almost every religion, but that can be subscribed to the power hungry men who propagated and transcribed it throughout the ages as a means of gaining power in their kingdoms.

[Tebow2000]

AP, have you noticed that your theories seem to piss people off?

[Aggressor Prime]

Most theories do, just like religion, politics, etc.

[Smartweb]

Ok, perhaps I shoudl clarify what I meant by referencing back to the future. As in Back to the Future, changes made to the space time continuum do not take effect until they occur!