Pentium 4 570J (3.8GHz) Reviewed

Aggressor Prime · Post by **Aggressor Prime** » November 14th, 2004, 5:45 pm

Intel's highest clock here.

So you are wondering, will this CPU take the crown?
Doom 3 Scores:
FX-55 (102.5)
4000 (100.7)
3800 (97.3)
3400 (90.5)
3200 (90.3)
3.46EE (89.3)
3.4EE (87.9)
570J (87.1)

Well, I don't think so.

LVSeminole · Post by **LVSeminole** » November 20th, 2004, 7:44 am

HAHA. Intels 3.8ghz is a joke. Really it is. A 1.8ghz CPU(athlon 64 3000+) beating it in gaming, and a bunch of other things, should have intel shaking. Intel should ba ashamed of themselves.

To all the intel fans out there.....

Intel Prescott...heat problems. ANyone that says otherwise is either too think to realize that Netburst is incompetent compared to the K8 architecture, or is a fanboy that is too blind to see the obvious....

Do I want to get onto the 64-bit memory registers? Yeah I think I should. iAMD64 or whatever Intel so conveniently put it, is the same thing as AMD64....save for a couple of things.....Memory bandwidth. Or should I say registers. Intels 64-bit capability uses 20% less memory registers than does AMD64...the K8 architecture. The K8 architecture is what AMD is using to smack the holy bejesus out of intel with....Athlon 64's. The Netburst architecture cannot handle any more registers. It already errors with the current amount used in the 1066fsb layout. What makes you think that iEMT64 will work any better? It wont. With AMD's on CPU memory controller...that means no lag, no delay for you n00bs....Intel cannot, i repeat..CANNOT compete with the netburst architecture working for intel. The K8 is too advanced. Intel has been beaten. The Dual core situation is much worse. Intels Dual cores will have to share the already limited by single core 1066mhz FSB. With each core you have with AMD, another link (hypertransport) will be present, meaning, that the bandwidth that may have been capped....is not a problem anymore. So seriously, why, oh why would intel have the crown?

LVS

Tebow2000 · Post by **Tebow2000** » November 20th, 2004, 3:55 pm

I don't believe the ignorance AMD fans have...

Hrmm if a 3200+ cannot beat a 3.8, how can a 3000+ beat our 3.8.. Don't start posting stuff you don't know about.

Here is some more information to prove taht you ARE WRONG

Aggressor Prime · Post by **Aggressor Prime** » November 20th, 2004, 3:58 pm

Those are not a Doom 3 benchmarks. Doom 3 is the ultimate benchmark. Use a Doom 3 benchmark.

Tebow2000 · Post by **Tebow2000** » November 20th, 2004, 4:05 pm

Okay, just for AP's pleasure

Nolano · Post by **Nolano** » November 20th, 2004, 4:11 pm

Wow. You call that winning? you intel fanbois really have learned to settle for very little. In that business winstone, the 3.8, which is at least 700, is being beaten by the 3400. a $200 CPU!!! and the 3200. and of course the 3800, 4000, and FX-55. how do you call that winning? I call it OWNAGE!!!!!!!!!!!

Tebow2000 · Post by **Tebow2000** » November 20th, 2004, 4:13 pm

You can go pay 1200 for the FX-55 ... I don't care

smileymattj · Post by **smileymattj** » November 20th, 2004, 6:17 pm

Doom 3 is a Ã‚Â§hity game it cant push a Intel to it's limits but i sure can push a AMD to ist limits, because AMD's suck.

a game is not a clear benchmark, WHEN BENCHMARKING USE A BENCHMARK TOOL,

only cus the prices recently dropped on the gay FX-55 cus they couldnt sell em, cus they suck.

Nolano · Post by **Nolano** » November 20th, 2004, 9:10 pm

You have to be one of the biggest dumbasses I have evber talked to. If the AMD is being pushed to its limits and the intel isnt, WHY IS THE AMD OWNING??? And benchmark programs dont actually simulate real world performance. and yeah. the FX-55 sucks ass. thats EXACTLY why its OWNING every intel processor on the list. DOom3 is great for benchmarking because its an extremely system sucking game.

Comanche · Post by **Comanche** » November 21st, 2004, 3:05 pm

Quit slinging around empty words and give me some facts. Doom 3 is not THE benchmark, hell, its not even a "benchmark" all these doom 3 facts are circumstatial... it tests the whole system and not the part we are looking at, the processor. When you get it through your head, then you will realize your fault. So wake the hell up and start thinking for once.

DOom3 is great for benchmarking because its an extremely system sucking game.

Aggressor Prime · Post by **Aggressor Prime** » November 21st, 2004, 4:28 pm

But the part we are looking at, the CPU, affects the entire system. By getting a Socket 754/939/940 CPU, one can also get a nForce 4 chipset. The choice of the CPU also deals with the choice of the entire system around it.

Right now, in order to get SLI with present day technologies, either get a Socket 939 CPU or dual Socket 604s or dual Socket 940s. 939 for gaming. 940s for workstation. Both use nForce 4 SLI. Both rock.

Nolano · Post by **Nolano** » November 21st, 2004, 8:45 pm

Comanche wrote:Quit slinging around empty words and give me some facts. Doom 3 is not THE benchmark, hell, its not even a "benchmark" all these doom 3 facts are circumstatial... it tests the whole system and not the part we are looking at, the processor. When you get it through your head, then you will realize your fault. So wake the hell up and start thinking for once.
DOom3 is great for benchmarking because its an extremely system sucking game.

With systems that have the same parts, AMD's own. Doom3 has a timedemo meant for benchamarking. they made it that way. If doom 3 is such a crappy benchmark, what is better? 3dmark, a program that does a horrible job at simulating real gaming stresses? plus about half of those benchmarks show AMD's owning.

The_Man · Post by **The_Man** » November 22nd, 2004, 12:22 am

is NVidia more optimized towards AMD then Intel? aren't they using NVidia in those benchmark tests towards Doom 3?

Aggressor Prime · Post by **Aggressor Prime** » November 22nd, 2004, 1:09 am

ATI Radeon X800 XT PCI Express for P4 and AMD64
ATI Radeon X800 XT AGP for AMDXP

Nolano · Post by **Nolano** » November 22nd, 2004, 4:38 am

they use Nvidia in the D3 benchmarks to get it as close as possible to cpu bottlenecked, as nvidia cards run Doom 3 better than ATI/

Aggressor Prime · Post by **Aggressor Prime** » November 22nd, 2004, 5:11 am

Nolano wrote:they use Nvidia in the D3 benchmarks to get it as close as possible to cpu bottlenecked, as nvidia cards run Doom 3 better than ATI/

No, Anandtech used the Radeon X800 XT.
Look here.

Nolano · Post by **Nolano** » November 22nd, 2004, 3:37 pm

oh, my bad. thank, ap.